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Corniaud[edit]

Hello et bonne année ! Il me semble que le film est sorti en Italie en novembre 1965. Voir par exemple ici le Corriere della Sera du 27/11/65. Cordialement, — Racconish 💬 11:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Salut Racconish et bonne année! Il est possible que le film soit sorti dans les salles en novembre, mais l'info que j'ai trouvé sur Imdb [1] indique une avant-première à Rome le 8 février. Ruthven (msg) 12:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Il me semble que ce qui compte ici c'est la date de sortie en salle, postérieure à celle en France. Cordialement, — Racconish 💬 13:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
La convention de Berne parle de "rendre accessible rendre [l'œuvre] au public avec le consentement de l’auteur"[2]. C'est assez ouvert à interprétation selon moi. Une projection d'avant-première (même si à un public sélectionné) indique sans doute le pays où l'œuvre a été publiée pour la première fois. Dans ce cas, ce serait l'Italie. Bonne journée! Ruthven (msg) 13:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Il ne s'agit pas de photogrammes du film mais de photos de plateau, dont il est peu vraisemblable qu'elles aient été publiées à l'occasion d'une avant-première, mais beaucoup plus vraisemblable qu'elles l'aient éventuellement été lors de la sortie en salle, qui a eu lieu en France avant l'Italie. Cordialement, — Racconish 💬 15:23, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Racconish Ça ne change pas grand chose. Il s'agit de "photos simples" selon la loi italienne. Vu que les photos ont été faites sur le tournage, elles appartiennent à la production vu qu'aucun auteur n'est indiqué et donc le discours précédent tient toujours debout selon moi. Elles peuvent aussi avoir été publiées avant la projection du film en salle. Ruthven (msg) 09:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Cet argument est complètement différent de celui que tu as utilisé pour la clôture et il me semble qu'il ne tient pas compte du commentaire que j'ai fait... mais je te laisse juge. Cordialement, — Racconish 💬 09:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Racconish La discussion portait sur le pays de première publication, si je me souviens bien, à cause du fait que sur Commons on fait référence à la convention de Berne et non à la législation des états, quand ces deux sont en conflit. Pour le reste, ces photos entrent totalement dans le PD-Italy. Cordialement Ruthven (msg) 10:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Batistuta-Latorre en Boca Jrs. 1991.jpg[edit]

Hi, I wanted to ask about your closure of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Batistuta-Latorre en Boca Jrs. 1991.jpg. You closed as keep on the basis of URAA not being acceptable as a reason to delete. However, my understanding per COM:L/COM:URAA is that the policy is "A mere allegation that the URAA applies to a file cannot be the sole reason for deletion. If the end result of copyright evaluation is that there is significant doubt about the freedom of a file under US or local law, the file must be deleted in line with the precautionary principle. " I have done that copyright evaluation, and found there is no scenario where this photo can possibly be public domain in the US, because it was taken after 1989. If it was exclusively published in Argentina, then it remained in copyright in Argentina until at least 2016 (because it was taken in 1991); thus, it was in copyright on January 1, 1996, and is thus still in copyright in the US. If it was jointly published in the US and Argentina (or published solely in the US), then normal US copyright law applies; because the photo was taken after 1989, it cannot possibly be public domain until 95 years after publication. Other DRs I opened with the same rationale have closed as delete (e.g. Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:El Gráfico, 1989), so could you please explain your rationale for keeping? Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 03:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yu Gi oh cards[edit]

Hello I need help. Can I upload images of Yu Gi oh cards which I took pictures of? Cards is mine and I took photo which my phone but don't know rules for that things. Vux33 (talk) 10:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Vux33 Hi, which card are you talking about? Have you realised the design of the card yourself? Where has it been published then? Ruthven (msg) 09:42, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No. I have the cards, but I don't know who published them for sale. -- Vux33 (talk) 09:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vux33 So your photo is a Derivative work. You don't have the rights to publish it, I'm sorry. Ruthven (msg) 09:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Roma_Colosseo_002.JPG[edit]

Could you help me identify which sculpture this is or who the sculptor of this was so I could put a more definite undeletion date than "unknown" on the DR Commons:Deletion requests/File:Roma Colosseo 002.JPG which has been now categorized as Italian FOP cases/deleted. Abzeronow (talk) 21:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Abzeronow Hi, it's a 2009 statue by Jimenez Dereda called Pareja[3]. Best Ruthven (msg) 09:39, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Grazie. Abzeronow (talk) 16:12, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:École du Mail (Genève)[edit]

Maybe it's unique in Italy, but in most places covered parking lots are usually buildings. Especially in cases where the parking lot is in an actual building. Otherwise someone's garage in their house would be outdoors. Which is totally ridiculous. Adamant1 (talk) 19:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Adamant1 École du Mail is in Geneva, Switzerland, not in Italy. I don't know where you live, and what problem you have with parking lots, but I don't see why are you talking about parking and buildings in the first place. Here the photos are about benches next to a basket playground. Basket playgrounds can be outside or inside. This one is outside. Cheers Ruthven (msg) 15:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm aware of where the École du Mail is located. You live in Italy though do you not? So I thought maybe you'd have a different definition or understanding of what makes something a building there then in other places since it seems like Italy has their own way of doing things with a lot of this stuff. As to the rest of your comment, yes the artwork is behind some seats on a wall that's located in the same area as a basket playground and they can be inside, but so what? The artwork in this image is clearly inside of a building. As should be obvious by the windows behind it and lack of sunlight. Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Switzerland "The place must be accessible to the public on a de facto basis....Following the majority view in the legal literature, if the place is only accessible to certain categories of persons, such as pupils and high school staff, it is no longer “accessible to the public.”" There's zero evidence that the outside playground is accessible to the general public to begin with, but it's even more unlikely that the part of it inside of the building would be on a de facto basis, or that they wouldn't only allow students and school staff access to it. It's clearly closed off to the public by nature of being inside a building to begin with. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Informazioni redirect[edit]

Ciao, mi potresti linkare le linee guida sui redirect qui su commons, non riesco a trovarle UltimoGrimm (talk) 11:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@UltimoGrimm -> COM:REDIRECT. Ruthven (msg) 15:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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