Hi Davey2010, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year, Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia, Lotje (talk) 05:47, 24 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Contributers2020, Thank you so much for your lovely greeting, Best greeting I've seen this year, Truly a lovely greeting thank you - I hope you and yours are having a wonderful Christmas and I hope you all have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk12:48, 25 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @mate and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too - One can only hope mate, I miss the old world desperately so, Lets hope 2022 will be a much better year for all of us!, Have a wonderful day mate and I hope you have a happy, healthy and safe New Year, All the best, Warm Regards, Dave // –Davey2010Talk13:52, 25 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fitindia has promoted me to file mover. So I moved 2 unidentified images. As you are a file mover as well, I would request you to confirm if I did it correct as I don't want anything to go wrong. I would be very grateful if you did it so. --Contributers2020Talk to me here17:25, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
First of all, I am asking you to stop vandalizing - you undo the edits on the map without having the slightest idea what it contains, when the version showing the land in all its glory has been loaded, because the previous version was trimmed badly. Secondly, let go of the aggressive tone, because I will ask for an intervention and you will get a blockade - but you. My past? It's clean compared to yours, so worry about yours too. Lechitatalk19:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Davey2010 I see you haven't finished your aggressive rhetoric + you are restoring the wrong version of the map. I gave you a warning, but as a destructive person with 7 locks on your account, you want to get the eighth lock. Lechitatalk14:29, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@LechitaPL, I don't know anything about the history behind the map so you may well be correct however given your unnesseccary croppings with previous files IMHO you should seek consensus for your changes or failing that crop the file and upload as a whole new file. Report me and see where you get. –Davey2010Talk14:42, 14 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Davey2010 & @LechitaPL - ok guys. Keep it calm please. Nothing happened, no one is vandalising, assume some good faith, will you, please? :) @Davey - LechitaPL admitted that he'd wrongly reverted some crops and he fully understands the situation. @LechitaPL - Davey was also acting in a good faith while reverting you. "Correcting" the crop by overwriting it with another one (even if the latter is correct indeed) is not the way how we do it. If you think that the crop is wrong, you should make a new crop from the original file, upload it separately, and use it in articles; while labeling the "wrong" crop with for example {{Factual accuracy}} or {{Inaccurate-map-disputed}}. @Davey - threatning another user with a block while having no means to apply one... you know, is just silly :) Try to avoid this. @Lechita - while I have no idea whether Lubusz diocese should be included in "Lands given up to Silesian dukes", please see above on correcting crops. Maybe the original file wasn't supposed to show this diocese, as it hadn't been given up to Silesian dukes? The best would be to consult the original uploader. Anyway guys, no sweats here please, take it easy, try to talk next time. And I assume that you will clean up whatever needs to be cleaned up, ok? cheers and have fun! Masur (talk) 13:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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"prev images were absolutely fine", do you know the different image qualities (Valued images, Quality images, Featured images)? my modifications are not only on the quality of the images but on a general update. you cancel everything without distinction without any respect for the work provided. please erase only true errors or vandalism but not a total cancellation.
Hello, Apologies for the delayed response, You ask that question on the presumption that I knew you were replacing images based on quality!, In all of your edits (here, here and here) you left no edit summaries, Unfortunately I nor my colleagues are mind readers so if you don't explain what you're doing then how are we supposed to know what you're doing?
Back on topic IMHO the images are all fine and didn't need replacing - Just because the images have been voted VI, QI and FI doesn't mean we should start using them although of course we should always use high quality images but IMHO we shouldn't unnecessarily replace high quality images for the sake of it, You're more than welcome to head to the talkpage and seek consensus on your proposed images (IE in the form of a COM:RFC, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk17:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Request for assistance
Greetings: We have a newish volunteer who seems to have a problem when I pull images out of "no source, no license & no permission", mark them something like "This seems to be old enough to keep" and nominate them for deletion. He doesn't seem to wish to understand that this is a method to save the files and he gets rude to me about what he calls my lack of understanding of copyright and Commons. Recently he's started modifying his user page to include lists of negative interactions with me and other users. On one DN, someone commented that this user has trouble with en:wiki [1] & [2] and perhaps others. I would like to go on record that this situation now is creepy and unwelcome. I have no idea why he's picking at me, nor why he doesn't seem to understand that admins & bureaucrats (like me and Eugene Zelenko whom he also disrespects) work really hard keeping the place tidy and that there is no reason for personal attacks as part of the process. The situation is not fun and I would appreciate some help with it. Thank you. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey Ellin Beltz, Other than this DR I see no issues with RAN or their edits thus far - In the mentioned DR RAN should've helped rather than left pointless commentary and expected everyone to do the work for him - If you knew the needed information quite rightly you would've added that information instead of nominating it for deletion so the commentary/point scoring was unnesscerry but other than that I'm not seeing any issues.
Just to add I agree with your deletion here (because it's not a notable club nor do any cats exist for it),
Anyway it may be best going to AN and seeking guidance from an admin as far as my knowledge with RAN goes I only know or at least remember him from the TRM (The Rambling Man days, Sorry I couldn't be of any help, thanks, –Davey2010Talk18:35, 26 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hiya, Ah okay admittedly i've only checked 4 recent DRs from the editor interaction tool and of course not following you both or being here that often there may be things I'm completely missed here, Thanks, Take care, –Davey2010Talk18:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wont reping you but just wanted to say many thanks for adding the reflist talk to the talkpage, I remembered it but then got sidetracked so it never got done so thanks again for your help too :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk17:59, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My pleasure. Thanks for the move. I don't know how it happened but the display of the laptop is completely gone. As it was brand new laptop; this accidental damage has caused a lot of grief. Thanks to the CIS-A2K who are helping with the repair costs. ─ The Aafī on Mobile(talk)19:28, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @AafiOnMobile, Just spotted your note inre to redirect so I've requested deletion of that,
Wow that sucks!, Unfortunately they don't make things like they used too, My expensive Dell Inspiron is made of cheap flimsy plastic so everythings come away or broken on it! but having no display must be terrible
Oh that's nice of them - i don't ever get laptops repaired - I just buy second hand cheap ones lol, Anyway fingers crossed your laptop can be fixed and is workable again Thanks, –Davey2010Talk01:35, 22 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So to cut a long and confusing post short - Arriva at some point between 2015-2018 dropped the above divison names from their depots, vehicles and websites. Legal lettering (such as here (under 2nd window at the very bottom) had been replaced with "Ariva Kent and Surrey" - Arriva in the whole of Kent (inc Medway), Guildford, Surrey and Sussex are all under "Arriva Kent and Surrey" and have been for years so should the formet names be amended so to imply their historical and then create categories such as "ArrivaKS Medway, Arriva KS Maidstone?
( –Davey2010Talk21:12, 15 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bus category maintenance
Hi Davey,
if you want help in identification of bus models, this revert ist not helpful. Files in this category should not be in either category (Enviro200 oder Enviro300) as long as they have not been identified as such. Being categorized in both makes even less sense, since each image is certainly wrong in one of these categories. Thus, I'd like to ask you to refrain from premature reverts like this one.
Thank you, MB-one (talk) 18:29, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hi @Rudolph Buch, My sincere apologies - I was mass-reverting an IP on my watchlist and unfortunately reverted you without obviously realising, I've undone my revert, My apologies again for this, Many thanks, Warm regards, –Davey2010Talk23:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello Davey2010, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! It has been a pleasure to have you as a fellow Wikimedian this year. Wherever you are, enjoy the festive season and stay warm (if you're north of the Tropic of Cancer)! Your help in maintaining, improving and expanding Wikimedia Commons will always be appreciated.
Mercedes-Benz convertible @ CW Arborists in Bridgehampton, New York
Can you identify the model of the Mercedes-Benz convertible in those two photos I took at that Arborist's airplane hangar in Bridgehampton, New York back in 2015? Because that was why I categorized it as being unidentified. --DanTD (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello @DanTD, No I cannot however you'd have a better chance of those images being identified if they're in the Mercedes category than the unidentified category (as you have to jump through hoops to get to it whereas with the Mercedes category you basically go back a few categories and you're there), There's also an editor who's name escape me that routinely identifies Mercedes vehicles so I felt as I said above you'd have a better chance of them being found and categorised in that category than the other one, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk17:38, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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{{unblock|1=I was blocked for "Incivility after warnings" (this comment), I wasn't given any warnings prior to this block and in my defence I not only removed the comment in question but I also closed the thread to try and deescalate the situation[3]. IMHO the block isn't valid as calling someones reply "sarcastic bullshit" isn't nice but it's not block worthy either. I did however very stupidily make this comment which was a stupid thing to say and I sincerely apologise for saying that, Thanks, }}
Obviously the second comment was/is block-worthy however it should've been obvious to anyone over at COM:EDIT FILTER that I was riled up and in no mood for an argument, El repeatedly (and still does) insist that I'm lying over being disallowed to make an edit and I've been telling them till I'm blue in the face that I was disallowed all to no avail so that only acerbated matters and only got me more riled up. Had El left the thread as was or even undone my closure and left it at that the second comment would never have happened, I'm certainly not justifying the comment but explaining the context around it. Anyway I again sincerely apologise for that stupid comment, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk20:08, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Stemoc and @Rhododendrites, Not to dig myself a deeper hole but is the "sarcastic bullshit" sentence really worth blocking someone for 3 days or 2 weeks over?, Most of my incivilty blocks have all centered around me saying F off - No f words were mentioned and I didn't call the admin any names (completely ignoring the second comment)
I'm not saying I should be unblocked because I said something less offensive but I simply called their replies "sarcastic bullshit" which to me isn't any where near block worthy - It's not polite totally agree but to me it's not block worthy either, The more I think about the block the less sense it actually makes –Davey2010Talk11:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I personally thought the sarcastic comment deserved a 24 hour block (cool-off period), 3 days was overkill but that other thing you said after being blocked probably deserved a week minimum lol..as someone who knows a thing or 2 about being confrontational, it never really works out for you and i understand where you are coming from, you made a mistake not understanding that odd abusefilter, even i got hit by it early last December even though i have image reviewer rights and the image wasn't even an artwork (just had the word artwork in the file description lol), personally there are more confrontational people on this project who are somehow avoiding blocks for reasons unknown (inept/inexperienced admins is the only correct answer i assume). Personally, not a fan of lot of users here and admins but its never really a good idea to swear at them...admin abuse is an issue on this project (and every other wiki lol) but i do feel you kinda did deserve a short-term block :P .. Stemoc12:54, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Stemoc, hope you're well, I genuinely thought to myself "Well if I didn't shoot myself in the foot with the bs comment then I certainly have now!, I do sort of wonder whether if I hadn't made the second comment whether I would've been unblocked but who knos,
You should try Simple.EN for a week - Commons is amazing compared to there :), I do agree though there's still a lot to be desired here!, Haha I suppose I should count myself lucky you're not an admin :P (jokes aside I think you'd make an amazing admin :)), –Davey2010Talk14:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Responding to the ping: if you're asking whether I would block over the "sarcastic bullshit" comment myself (if I were an admin), then no, I don't think so. Hard to say without being in that position, but I think I'd just be annoyed and move on rather than continue trying to help/understand (and would probably think twice before trying to respond to you in the future). Nobody's obliged to respond to requests for help/information, of course, and if someone starts becoming abusive, they can't expect many people being willing to help. But whether I'd block probably isn't the question. More likely it's whether a 3-day block is outside the realm of what's reasonable within admin discretion, and no, I don't think it was unreasonable. Maybe if it had started with a couple weeks just for that one comment I'd expect any reasonable unblock request to be granted or would suggest paring it back, but three days? Meh. That's just my two cents, though. — Rhododendritestalk | 19:13, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Rhododendrites, That's fair enough, I'm always appreciative and grateful for any help and advice I recieve and I make that known in my replies but in this case I felt El was trying to be condescending and sarcastic than of help, Maybe that wasn't intentional but that's how it came across. Anyway thank you for your helpful reply here, Take care, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk19:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hi Andy, I'll be honest you're the last person on earth I ever expected to see here this evening - I don't say this an editor but as a human being - Thank you Andy!, Your analysis there has summed it up in one imho, I greatly appreciate that but I don't know why you would as we've never really got on as such, I greatly appreciate your help tho thank you Andy
@Elcobbola, As I said above I was already riled up with being prevented from overwriting a file - Do you think your initial reply There does not appear to be a filter issue. As you can see, your edit was not disallowed and you've indeed now successfully overwritten the image. Filter 176 is public and you can review the purpose and syntax at your leisure ("I don't understand this filter and what it's supposed to prevent"). Эlcobbola talk 18:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC) (emphasis mine) helped in any way?
You simply could've replied with "This is to do with filter x which does x, y and z, your reply (certainly the end part) came across in a very sarcastic way - I'm able to follow discussion and didn't need my reply quoted back to me,
You blocked me and then proceeded to state again that i wasn't being prevented[4] - Maybe you're unaware of what the filter does but when uploading with chunked upload, Normally it uploads the file in 2/3 parts and then says complete - Today it uploaded in 2/3 parts and then gave a overwrite error (or maybe this is classed as a "warning") - I wasn't given the option to continue or do anything other than cancel - As I then had to cancel it (because I had no other option) I IMHO was therefore prevented/disallowed from uploading that file,
Take a look at the 1st Feb items here - I added an OTRS tag - I was first warned and then given the option to click "continue/save page" - No option existed for chunkedupload other than to cancel or refresh the page (I was unaware retrying a second would work I just assumed I was going to be repeatedly prevented)
I have since noticed at the abuse log there is a "disallowed" dropdown menu which when selected and loaded nothing shows however on system or not I still couldn't upload that file although maybe now I'm waffling on maybe that's where the confusion has come from - Because it's on the abuse log as being disallowed?, I don't know ... but what I do know is I could not physically upload that file the first time round.
Apologies for the long wall of text but I hope some of it makes some sense and I hope it maybe helps you understand why I was angry and what I was trying to say ?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk22:48, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Greek Street W1. (6931766555).jpg (section)
Hello Davey, good to see you again. Do you still want me to comment over the discussion, from the looks of it got subsumed into another discussion. The moment I was about to submit my reply you removed it off my talk page and closed the discussion. Vauxford (talk) 21:40, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please explain and/or revert this edit that you made, where you did at least two inappropriate things:
Closed a CfD in violation of CfD policy (closing with insufficient time for comment and not notifying participants of closure after it being explained to you that it was inappropriate to close it)
Used revert to delete another user's comments from a public discussion.
I will do neither. I (and you to be fair) wasted enough time on that CFD, I have no desire to further waste more time on it, You're more than welcome to either renominate them or start a community-wide RFC on the naming style, Have a great day. –Davey2010Talk00:03, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My request for adminship
Hello! I want to thank you for your participation and input in my recently failed request for adminship. I take every word everybody said in the most constructive way and it is my intention to not only do my best for Commons (as long as time and real life allows me to), but to continue learning and helping out whenever I can. I don't take your oppose vote as something negative, much on the contrary, it is certainly enlightening. Regarding the edit count / activity, I have to say I do visit and check my watch list on a daily basis. Every day, even those days I'm busy in real life. I think I will have to add some other files and pages to my watchlist! (hehe). I do not think the number of edits makes a contributor or their contributions more or less valuable, but I do agree an admin or someone aspiring to be one should be up to some higher standards. Once again, thank you for your vote and I hope to see you again, collaborating around Commons. Have a good day. Bedivere (talk) 03:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You may want to look at what you wrote: "what started company started first" doesn't make much sense, and isn't going to help someone help you. Not the only part of this I'm not understanding, but particularly confusing. - Jmabel ! talk00:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, Other than the "what started company started first" slip up the rest to me makes sense ?, Meh I'll just do it my way and if someone's not happy they can do whatever with it :), Thanks. –Davey2010Talk10:46, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Seen in Crawley 20th April 1985 at the start of the Saturday Road Run for the 1985 British Coach Rally is Cedric's of Wivenhoe, Essex Bedford YMT Jonckheere Bermuda 169 YEV.
Me and the owners son spent nearly two weeks getting that ready for the coach rally.....and i drove it in the rally....at 19 years old!!. It is actually a Bedford YMT!! not a Volvo. Formally registered XPT 871R one of i think two Jonckheere Bedfords, and needless to say, was not exactly a lively performer with the heavy Belgian body on alittle 500 engine. –Davey2010Talk19:06, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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"Now get the fuck off my talkpage and take your condescending tone with you." [15]
"[T]hey're utterly fucking stupid and they apparently don't understand what communication consists of. Again don't leave me messages if you don't want to be pinged you absolute fucking moron. Be gone troll." [16]
"[O]fcourse (sic) you're going to be pinged you fucking idiot, May I suggest you fuck off from Commons entirely? - Log off and never return" [17]
"Take your anger on the moron who requested the file renames" [18]
"[W]e're always going to come across idiots such as C2020 and to keep these idiots at bay a statement should be added" [27]
This despicable nonsense has gone on far too long and, again per COM:BP, an acknowledgement of the issue and credible commitment to discontinue is needed before editing is to resume. Эlcobbolatalk20:21, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
FYI I made it clear in that thread no archive site would work but did Andrew care ? No. Understandably I was agitated enough with nothing working and Andrews interference only exacerbated things. Things would've gone a lot better had he not even commented on that thread. I didn't ask for his opinion but either way helping me would've been more appreciated over csd-tag!.
As for the above - Context matters - There were valid reasons as to why some (not all but some) of what was said was said. Эlcobbola has blocked me three times in a row so one could think he has an axe to grind and pointless reply!.
Either way It's Commons and its viewers that lose out here not me. No unblock request will ever see me unblocked which is a shame, I've put a lot of work into this place and made a good few friends but we'll ignore all that and focus on the negative stuff.
Anyway thank you to everyone who has helped and guided me over the years, your help and guidance has always been and always will be greatly appreciated, Take care all, Warm Regards, Dave // –Davey2010Talk20:58, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, I agree that Andy's comment was out of place. Nevertheless, this is not a reason to insult him. You should learn to express disagreement without attacking others. My 2 c. Yann (talk) 21:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I second Yann's two cents, and add one thing: I strongly disagree that "no unblock request will ever see [you] unblocked". I agree with Elcobbola that all that should be required for an unblock is (1) an acknowledgement of the issue and (2) a credible commitment to discontinue. If you wish to return in the future, I would suggest waiting a few months, working on your evident anger issues in the meantime, and then requesting an unblock. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unblock request
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Request reason: "First and foremost @Pigsonthewing I sincerely apologise for the comment made to you yesterday, You may of had good intentions thinking of the Project and its interests and I respect that ..... however it should've been obvious to you that I was already agitated with the archiving sites not archiving ...... and so your comment at that time only agitated me further. I was stuck as what to do and so for time being (not indefinitely) I felt my way was the best way, I completely understand and appreciate it wasn't the best way but at that time It really was, I still believe and maintain you should not have commented/interfered in that thread but either way the insults weren't needed and I apologise for what I had said to you.
To the reviewing admin; I don't believe in making promises I can't keep however I do acknowledge what was said shouldn't of been said and the reply although in a temper only sealed the deal here and again shouldn't of been said either,
I will say in regards to my anger issues - I've come a long way from the person I used to be in 2010 and although I'm not perfect I would like to think I'm more perfect now then I used to be - I handle things much much better than I used too, We all get agitated/angry from time to time and we all have our ways of dealing with things (some better than others)
Anyway rambling on now - I apologise to Andy and now acknowledge what was said there and here shouldn't of been said, Thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk11:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)"Reply[reply]
Decline reason: "Users can be unblocked, if they acknowledge the problems and give a credible promise not to continue. The first condition is clearly fulfilled and it's good to see, that you agree, that you have a problem. The second condition – credible promise not to continue – is not fulfilled and in my opinion this is even impossible at moment. Especially this comment after getting blocked shows, that it's not proper time to unblock you. I suggest you to work couple of months (couple of weeks is not enough) in another project without getting blocked or even warned about civility. Then the unblock request is maybe credible, but it is not now. Taivo (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)"Reply[reply]
Administrators: This template should be removed when the block has expired.
Well I'm sorry but I point blank refuse to make promises I know I cannot keep, I can sit here and say "I wont ever tell someone to fuck off again, I wont ever lash out in a temper again" but what would be the point ? .... I know I cannot keep that promise so why would I make that promise knowing full well I cannot keep it ? .... That's just setting myself up to fail is it not?.
Your decline further emphasises my point "No unblock request will ever see me unblocked". I've seen enough repeated unblock requests so know how this will pan out. Well it's Commons' that suffers in the end, Shame. Well I wont further waste your time so I'm out, Take care. –Davey2010Talk14:31, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please cool off for a few days and try again. Regardless of everything else, the quotes listed above by Elcobbola at 20:21 are pretty damning. From a hothead to another, plase take a deep breath and count to 10! -- Tuválkin✉✇14:59, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unblock request 2
Unblock|1= First and foremost I again would like to sincerely apologise to @Pigsonthewing and @Elcobbola for the comments made as well as to the community for my repeated incivility,
So for honesty and transparency - after I got indeffed here I went back to EN and after a month of good editing there I ended up being blocked there for 24 hours for incivility[28] (7 June 2023), After a few days (and after editors told me i needed to change asap) I had come to the realisation that if I carried on being incivil my editing would soon become a thing of the past and that I did need to change, I also realised my supporters were dwindling in numbers and that (as kindly pointed by Floq) the community had at that point got fed up with it and that "I had used my last remaining f off",
Editing at any project is a privilege not a right and that privilege can be stopped for any given reason,
My first unblock request here missed the mark entirely - I now recognise my incivility is a problem and I now recognise it needs to stop, We now also have foundation:Policy:Universal_Code_of_Conduct Universal_Code_of_Conduct which only makes it a million times easier for me to be blocked.
Obviously I'm not pleased about being blocked on two projects but in some ways it was a great thing as it was certainly a wake up call and has made me realise I need to change.
Anyway since the EN block I've kept my head low and haven't got in to any confrontations or heated debates there or at SIMPLE EN
If I'm unblocked I'll try to be less incivil and when things get heated I will take a break and leave the laptop . of course we all have our off days and like everyone I'm not a perfect human being but I will try to do things differently and will try to be more civil going forward, Thanks, Kind Regards, }} –Davey2010Talk13:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Elcobbola, Hope you're well, Apologies if I've pinged you already, the ping list brings up 2 Elcobbola's so wasn't sure if you were pinged and or whether you've read the above, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk23:17, 13 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't see that I was asked a question. The additional bad faith piffle ("Elcobbola has decided to ignore me") is par for the course, and does not help your cause. Эlcobbolatalk11:45, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't know what part of "I don't see that I was asked a question" was unclear. Pings are just as commonly used as FYIs, which is the assumption in the absence of a question. I am also busy dealing with hundreds of spambots. That you assume I've "decided to ignore [you]", instead of assuming that I'm busy and currently have higher priorities is entitled impatience and, again, bad faith piffle. Эlcobbolatalk11:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pings are used to grab someones attention - not for questions. Again there's no bad faith here, You had 2 days to respond even to simply say "Sorry I'm currently busy". I certainly am not entitled nor do I expect people to reply immediately (hence why I waited for 2 days for someone to respond). –Davey2010Talk12:00, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"Pings are used to grab someones attention - not for questions" Agreed. Now read that, and my responses again. I do not owe you "Sorry I'm currently busy", or any other response. Эlcobbolatalk12:06, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't see that I was asked a question - You're not making much sense. I'm lost - you didnt reply .... so surely any normal person in my shoes would've thought the exact same thing ?, And I felt it was only correct to state why other people were being pinged. Duly noted I won't ping you again. –Davey2010Talk12:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose. I said to you: "I suggest you to work couple of months (couple of weeks is not enough) in another project without getting blocked or even warned about civility." Some weeks have passed since your last block, but not some months. Taivo (talk) 11:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oppose - COM:BP asks a credible commitment to discontinue. That someone with this outrageous history, including multiple related blocks on multiple projects, and indeed who has continued unabated after this block believes 2 months is adequate is not credible in the slightest. We are well past the point of accepting (empty) promises; we need objective evidence to demonstrate credibility, and that is not on offer--much to the contrary. Эlcobbolatalk12:06, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed and I clearly stated "If I'm unblocked I'll try to be less incivil and when things get heated I will take a break and leave the laptop . of course we all have our off days and like everyone I'm not a perfect human being but I will try to do things differently and will try to be more civil going forward," so I don't understand how that isn't credible ?,
I was given the advice of waiting "a few months" by an admin so I was following that advice?
With all due respect I waited 2 days for a response and recieved nothing - You even state in your reply above "I do not owe you "Sorry I'm currently busy", or any other response" - A simple courtesy message would've been nice and in turn I would've asked someone much much sooner.
My unblock request was honest, truthful, credible and sincere and wasn't an empty promise either - Like I stated my EN block was a wake up and I mean that, I don't say things for the sake of saying things or because "that's what they want to hear" - I meant every word of the second unblock request, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk12:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Taivo I apologise, I've always thought a "few months" were 2 but just found out it actually means 3-5 months. I'll decline this was a genuine error on my part sorry, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk12:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Elcobbola, Quick question how long do you believe I should wait before filing another request ?, I just don't want to return in say 5 months time to be told "5 months is inadequate",
FWIW I'm not someone who says things for the sake of saying it nor do I say what people want to hear - I really cannot emphasise it enough but the EN block really was a wake up call and that I do need to change the way I deal with heated issues.
People deal with heated issues in all sorts of different ways and unfortunately online for some reason I don't deal with it like everyone else, I just get angry, say some stupid things then regret it 15 minutes later,
I did say "If I'm unblocked I'll try to be less incivil and when things get heated I will take a break and leave the laptop . of course we all have our off days and like everyone I'm not a perfect human being but I will try to do things differently" so I just don't know what more I can do or say?, I recognise my incivilty is a problem and offered a way of dealing with it - surely that's better than not recognising/doing nothing at all?, –Davey2010Talk15:25, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Support I see no benefit to continuing this. And for those worried about risk of further damage, there is always WP:ROPE.
I would also point out that Davey has never been a destructive vandal. The worst that could happen here (and I agree, it's not unlikely) is that they ruffle someone else's feathers again and find themselves banned indefinitely (meaning "definitely"). Andy Dingley (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Andy Dingley, Hope you're well, Thanks for popping by,
But how is this me ruffling someone elses feathers ?, I was stuck as to what to do and instead of that editor helping me they immediately jumped on the thread and started CSD-tagging instead so how's that my fault (I did do everything wrong absolutely but help would've been appreciated over CSD-tagging,
I just feel there was no need for that editor to comment just like there wasn't any need for someone to comment at my EN thread when I had already resolved that problem too? (neither issues excuse my comments though certainly not!))
Sorry, but if you really can't see the problem at a "ruffling the feathers" level with saying, What a sad, pathetic and spiteful individual you are! then this isn't going to work.
I don't question your description here (I haven't even looked), that's not the point. The point is that part of the basic groundrules for WP has always been that they can be S,P&S and you can think they're S,P&S, but that we all agree to not say it and to not use such terms. We just don't. Even when they are. Because overall, things work better that way.
Yes, there's a problem where someone does something egregiously S,P&S, to the point that it has to be challenged. But this is difficult, and has to be phrased carefully to address that action, not the individual. Also doing so is something of a privilege that neither you nor I have access to. Not a few editors have been given interaction bans or other sanctions concerning editors who have then been deservedly perma-banned for the same root cause. But being right isn't a defence.
Yes it also causes a problem (see WP) where "pearl clutching" becomes a problem and a cloying niceness whilst secretly back-stabbing is a powerful tactic, especially to support long-established editors who may not deserve such loyalty. But still, we don't do this. This was an arbitrary decision, it's how WP was established, and it's often ignored. But it's not ignored completely, and you are going to be held to it absolutely and watched with a microscope. If you can't work within that, this isn't going to work at all. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Andy Dingley I'm so sorry I've linked the wrong edit - Again my comment was NOT okay and was NOT acceptable and I'm certainly aware that it will ruffle feathers absolutely,
I linked the wrong edit but I was saying how was this me ruffling feathers ? I was trying to say that I'm not the one who jumped on the ANI thread and CSD-tagged everything, so they had actually ruffled my feathers which in turn I ruffled their feathers does that make sense?
I've linked everything wrong and confused myself somehow but no I'm not saying it's okay to say that or that it shouldn't ruffle feathers because that's certainly not true,
Again saying SP&S (and similar) is never acceptable and will quite rightly ruffle feathers that's not what I was trying to say - I would never repeat such comments again either, –Davey2010Talk17:06, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Again there is absolutely no justification for what I said, I had misunderstood Andy's message, linked the wrong diff and then confused myself and everyone else apparently,
But again to reiterate and emphasise; such comments are NOT acceptable and of course my incivilty will ruffle peoples feathers that's not what I was saying at all - I was albeit very poorly trying to say they ruffled my feathers which in turn I ended up ruffling theirs but that still isn't a justification and I'm not certainly not using it as one,
This wasn't meant to go upside down - was meant to go all smooth and normal, I wish it could've been accepted and it would've saved all this but it is what it is, I apologise for confusing everyone. –Davey2010Talk17:34, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
FOP table
Hi JWilz12345, I hope you're well, Many thanks for kindly pinging me, Would it be possible if you could copy my comment there please as i'm unfortunately indeffed here right now (planning on returning later in the year hopefully but by then it would've been closed) FWIW I did heavily rely on this page a lot so would like a say but If I can't have a say I absolutely understand,
Personally I support Cmglee's option - Include all countries and remove the bottom list, As someone whos heavily relied on that page I've never really noticed the list at the bottom so it can certainly easily be missed (I appreciate this only makes the table bigger but imho this is nonetheless an improvement over the current table),
With respect to including all countries - IMHO this should be done providing the middle heading bar (Buildings|3D artwork|2D artwork|Text|Public interiors) is included more –Davey2010Talk16:29, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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